Feminism has long been against men and women having the equal right to speak. We see this in many ways.
Male-only spaces where men talk among men are “breeding grounds for patriarchy,” whereas female-only spaces are “safe spaces” that must be preserved at all costs. A woman talking about sex in public is “empowered” and “liberated,” whereas a man talking doing the same is a sexist who “objectifies women” and “contributes to ‘rape culture.'” The problem of rape – greatly overexaggerated – must be rammed down everyone’s throats by Feminists at every opportunity, and men as a group must be stigmatized and shamed for something that a minority of men do. But if anyone dares suggest that a minority of women make false rape accusations, all of a sudden such speech must be silenced immediately and with extreme prejudice – even if it means saving innocent men from ruin.
Over at UNews (article here) we hear of the latest institutional misandry coming from Feminists. This time it’s spearheaded by professor Judy Haiven of St. Mary’s University (although this particular event occurred at Dalhousie U). The article begins:
[su_quote]Women should be heard first in the classroom, a forum on misogyny at Dalhousie University heard Thursday. “Men should not be allowed to monopolize these forums,” Saint Mary’s University management professor Judy Haiven said.[/su_quote]So apparently, in order to “prevent a male monopoly,” a female monopoly must be established. That’s Feminism to a “T,” my friends. But it’s not just an idea professor Haiven is “thinking about.” She’s already doing it.
[su_quote]Her idea that women should always speak first in classroom discussions and at public events was brought up several times during the forum. Haiven said she already tries to apply this idea in her own classroom.“(In) the management department, women get to speak first. I think that that is a primary issue that we actually have to look at, how to do question and answer (periods). And we can start today.”[/su_quote]
Naturally, since this is a Feminist event, it would be attended by a great number of Feminists. And what was the Feminist crowd’s response to Haiven’s sexism?
[su_quote]Haiven’s idea was met by a round of applause.[/su_quote]Color me surprised. Queue the “but not all Feminists are like that” brigade who want us to ignore the inconvenient truth that most Feminists are indeed like that – exceptions notwithstanding.
Professor Haiven fails to note the irony in her next remark:
[su_quote]More women are graduating with university degrees than ever before, and often take up the majority of classes, “yet you wouldn’t know that.”[/su_quote]And why wouldn’t we know that, professor Haiven? Might it have something to do with people being told all their lives that men and boys live on cloud nine all the time simply because they were born male? Might it have something to do with Feminists in the media – like Bryce Covert – telling us that we should ignore men’s and boys’ education issues?
But Haiven doesn’t talk about that, of course. She doesn’t inquire into whether the recession of men from our universities might have anything to do with the anti-male atmosphere she and her ideological cohorts create. Forums on misandry are overwhelmingly absent from academic discourse – despite the rampant misandry in academia that establishes an incredible need to discuss it.
And in the midst of this, this white woman takes center stage, on a stage at an event created just for women, in a university where women already take center stage in policy and practice, and tells us that women just don’t have enough privilege.
And in fact, she’s not citing the fact that women are the majority of those attending higher ed as an offhanded gesture to care about men. She’s using it as to argue that since women are the majority of those enrolling, it should be a matter of policy that they should be the majority of those heard as well.
Feminism was originally marketed to the public as a movement that would empower marginalized and silenced voices of women. Today, it is about silencing and suppressing the voices of men and boys.
Unfortunately, before the society realized that this was the true face of Feminism, we gave them tons of money, influence, and power to do what they said they would do. And then – as the pathological liars that so many of them are – they pulled a bait-and-switch and decided to support every every vice they originally claimed to be against. And to top it off, they added the insulting arrogance of claiming they are still “for equality” and insisting that we should be stupid or self-hating enough to believe it.
Feminists wander into this website all the time talking about how the “bad Feminists” are really just “on the margins of the movement.” And time and time again, we see that this is not the case – that the bad Feminists in fact are the movement.
And – surprise surprise – none of the so-called “good” Feminists even bother to call professor Haiven out on her sexism. Instead, they applaud.
It’s long past time to get this ideology out of our schools.
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Feminism has long been against men and women having the equal right to speak. We see this in many ways.
Male-only spaces where men talk among men are “breeding grounds for patriarchy,” whereas female-only spaces are “safe spaces” that must be preserved at all costs. A woman talking about sex in public is “empowered” and “liberated,” whereas a man talking doing the same is a sexist who “objectifies women” and “contributes to ‘rape culture.'” The problem of rape – greatly overexaggerated – must be rammed down everyone’s throats by Feminists at every opportunity, and men as a group must be stigmatized and shamed for something that a minority of men do. But if anyone dares suggest that a minority of women make false rape accusations, all of a sudden such speech must be silenced immediately and with extreme prejudice – even if it means saving innocent men from ruin.
Over at UNews (article here) we hear of the latest institutional misandry coming from Feminists. This time it’s spearheaded by professor Judy Haiven of St. Mary’s University (although this particular event occurred at Dalhousie U). The article begins:
[su_quote]Women should be heard first in the classroom, a forum on misogyny at Dalhousie University heard Thursday. “Men should not be allowed to monopolize these forums,” Saint Mary’s University management professor Judy Haiven said.[/su_quote]So apparently, in order to “prevent a male monopoly,” a female monopoly must be established. That’s Feminism to a “T,” my friends. But it’s not just an idea professor Haiven is “thinking about.” She’s already doing it.
[su_quote]Her idea that women should always speak first in classroom discussions and at public events was brought up several times during the forum. Haiven said she already tries to apply this idea in her own classroom.“(In) the management department, women get to speak first. I think that that is a primary issue that we actually have to look at, how to do question and answer (periods). And we can start today.”[/su_quote]
Naturally, since this is a Feminist event, it would be attended by a great number of Feminists. And what was the Feminist crowd’s response to Haiven’s sexism?
[su_quote]Haiven’s idea was met by a round of applause.[/su_quote]Color me surprised. Queue the “but not all Feminists are like that” brigade who want us to ignore the inconvenient truth that most Feminists are indeed like that – exceptions notwithstanding.
Professor Haiven fails to note the irony in her next remark:
[su_quote]More women are graduating with university degrees than ever before, and often take up the majority of classes, “yet you wouldn’t know that.”[/su_quote]And why wouldn’t we know that, professor Haiven? Might it have something to do with people being told all their lives that men and boys live on cloud nine all the time simply because they were born male? Might it have something to do with Feminists in the media – like Bryce Covert – telling us that we should ignore men’s and boys’ education issues?
But Haiven doesn’t talk about that, of course. She doesn’t inquire into whether the recession of men from our universities might have anything to do with the anti-male atmosphere she and her ideological cohorts create. Forums on misandry are overwhelmingly absent from academic discourse – despite the rampant misandry in academia that establishes an incredible need to discuss it.
And in the midst of this, this white woman takes center stage, on a stage at an event created just for women, in a university where women already take center stage in policy and practice, and tells us that women just don’t have enough privilege.
And in fact, she’s not citing the fact that women are the majority of those attending higher ed as an offhanded gesture to care about men. She’s using it as to argue that since women are the majority of those enrolling, it should be a matter of policy that they should be the majority of those heard as well.
Feminism was originally marketed to the public as a movement that would empower marginalized and silenced voices of women. Today, it is about silencing and suppressing the voices of men and boys.
Unfortunately, before the society realized that this was the true face of Feminism, we gave them tons of money, influence, and power to do what they said they would do. And then – as the pathological liars that so many of them are – they pulled a bait-and-switch and decided to support every every vice they originally claimed to be against. And to top it off, they added the insulting arrogance of claiming they are still “for equality” and insisting that we should be stupid or self-hating enough to believe it.
Feminists wander into this website all the time talking about how the “bad Feminists” are really just “on the margins of the movement.” And time and time again, we see that this is not the case – that the bad Feminists in fact are the movement.
And – surprise surprise – none of the so-called “good” Feminists even bother to call professor Haiven out on her sexism. Instead, they applaud.
It’s long past time to get this ideology out of our schools.
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I originally studied German at university and before doing so I spent 6 months living in Germany, which improved my language greatly. This meant that I was at a considerable advantage in the conversation class over those who had not lived in the country, but I was always careful not to jump in too quickly after the previous person had finished talking. However, this didn’t stop a fellow student taking me aside to tell me that certain female students felt intimidated by me. The irony is that we had an older female student in the class who had spent 8 years or so living in Munich and whose German was therefore better than anyone else’s. To the best of my knowledge, no-one ever complained about her being intimidating.
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Interesting. So was the fellow student who took you aside one who herself “felt intimidated,” or was it another student speaking “in their behalf”?
If a student is “intimidated” by another student’s expertise, then that should be an incentive to ascend to their level, not an occasion to engage in a pity party. This reminds me of the “everyone’s a winner” mentality, which in practice amounts to punishing excellence and indulging those who put in less effort.
As we know, some students do dominate the discussion. But when other students are given the opportunity to speak, an invitation, and even a nudge, and yet refuse to do so, those who take the initiative will naturally be featured more prominently in the discussion.
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It was another student speaking on their behalf, but IIRC she was speaking on behalf of someone she knew well, so the two of them had doubtless spoken.
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Solution: declare yourself gender fluid. When you are in her classroom, whip out some lip balm, “perform” gender, and presto, you are a woman and get to speak!
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Yeah, that would be interesting if the professor realized you were actually a man and stopped you while you were in the middle of speaking.
Seriously, these people…becoming more pathetic and inexcusable each year.
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“Seriously, these people…becoming more pathetic and inexcusable each year.”
Unfortunately, yes. And there are much more feminist bullshits in 2014 than the past 3 years.
This phenomenon is called “accelerating change” – perceived increase in the rate of technological (and sometimes social and cultural progress) throughout history, which may suggest faster and more profound change in the future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change
These crazy feminists are not isolated individuals; they are systematically orgainzed. Now, feminism has become a part of mainstream American culture. If we do nothing, it will get worse and worse.
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Feminism is the cancer in education system.
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Cancer is a very apt term. It originates in particular isolated areas – Women’s Studies departments, certain administrative departments – and then metastasizes to other departments. And the “chemotherapy” of exposing their misandry to the world and applying pressure doesn’t just affect them, because we have to start questioning why their peers acquiesce to / fail to speak out against them as well.
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More like a virus. Viruses, like radical feminists, can not create anything on their own so they must invade a healthy host and use it to grow in number. Then, on to the next host.
Great column, Jonathan.
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That’s exactly what I meant.
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And we are the T lymphocytes.
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I’ll tell you what’s “interesting”: the profound lack of engagement by the male public with these issues, these phenomena. A few days ago I responded critically to an extremely insulting (to men) joke posted on facebook by a friend of a friend of a friend. Instantly a chorus of women attacked me, none of whom I had ever heard of. One of the last comments was, “Allan, you must have been brainwashed by the Men’s Movement.” Had I not long since ceased replying I might have answered, “What ‘Men’s Movement’?” Unfair exaggeration? Look at the number of responses to threads/comments on this site.
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Very good points. While we have all been lied to by feminists who insist that men are so privileged that they cannot suffer, many men have a problem
Also, I’d say that western society in general is just stuck in a mindset that their time away from work is to be devoted solely to entertainment. That’s not to say that activism can’t be fun (I had fun writing this article), but the reality is that if our society put as much effort into solving problems as it did keeping up with Kim Kardashian, football, and so forth, we would not have half the problems we have today.
Also, a lot of men are scared to do anything that might come remotely close to standing up to women. They’ll stand up to other men all day long, but if a woman threatens their well-being they’ll just roll over. Because in addition to being told all their lives that they can’t suffer because they are privileged, they’ve also been told that it’s unmanly to defend themselves from women.
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So true. When it comes to the entertainment thing I am reminded of Rome of the later Empire period. In an excellent book called ‘Coming Apart’ by Charles Murray he shows how 19th Century America was unique in the West, if not in the world, in its collective “personality” or character. This was a key reason for its greatness. Just like with the Roman Empire, however, those qualities have faded and with them, others.
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What sort of character was that, Allan?
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Pat, an adequate answer to this question would require either a lengthy discussion or for you to read the book because it is complex as well as controversial. Suffice it to say a very good and intelligent friend of mine disputes it, but then, he was born and raised in Ireland. However, some inkling can be gleaned from this quotation found in the beginning of Chapter 6. “No government could be established on the same principle as that of United States with a different code of morals.” “The American Constitution is remarkable for its simplicity; but it can only suffice a people habitually correct in its actions…change the domestic habits of the Americans, their (Christian) devotion and their high respect for morality and it will not be necessary to change a single letter of their Constitution to vary the whole form of their government” Francis Grund (German ) 1825.
The book goes on in this chapter to identify the following, discussing each one: industriousness, honesty, marriage and religiosity.
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When anti-Semitism began spreading in Germany in ’32 or earlier there was plenty of time and opportunity for Jews to leave and many did. However, most stayed. Of course, no one wants to leave their home unless absolutely necessary.But the other huge reason was that they did not WANT to believe their senses. This has been the case countless times in science and medicine too; the evidence is staring you in the face but you won’t accept it. This is the way it is with men. Ultimately they want to believe in their powerfulness and they want to be able to love women. That’s right, even perhaps those who hurl abusive language at women, deep down. After all, are they not talking like that out of hurt? Nothing hurts like a betrayl of trust.
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Here is a radical idea. So radical that feminists will hate it and will call it oppressive and patriarchal. The idea is E – Q – U – A – L – I – T – Y
Feminists HATE equality and will not tolerate it for a second.
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That’s because feminism has a major problem with hypocrisy. If they actually looked at their movement objectively they would see it. Christina Hoff Sommers is in a way trying to bring these issues to light. I brought up a point to a white male feminist (that stated that radical feminists have been pushed away from mainstream feminism) that if True Feminists would work with MRA’s that maybe we could move forward to actual gender equality. He responded that MRA’s are just white male trolls that essentially didn’t see their privilege. They are so intertwined with radical feminism that they don’t even recognize it anymore. I stated that “if you attempt to marginalize a persons viewpoint by attaching labels to dismiss them, you have become the bigot.”
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It is not true.In the Florida legislature we have a child joint custody bill and durational alimony bill.Guess what groups are lobbying against the bill hat gives fathers equal shared custody ?? Florida NOW and Florida League For Women Voters. What phony hypocrites
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That’s not just happening in Florida. When I mention “True Feminists” I mean egalitarians duped into Feminist ideals. I would even accept Equity Feminists. Most modern Feminists are radicalized. This article on the Wall Street Journal titled: “A Better World Run By Women” is a prime example of the type of pseudoscience they ascribe. It is almost in the spirit of the 20th century study of the differences between the races. I find it interesting that we, in this day and age, allow these hate movements to teach in institutions of higher learning. Here is a link to said article, and thank you for your time. http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-better-world-run-by-women-1425657910
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The feminazis are at it again.
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Firstly, let me start of by stating that I am making this comment anonymously due to the fact I do not want to be ridiculed.
When I was in my twenties, I went to a public swimming pool. There I was confronted by 2 females that i had not seen since Primary school (year 6). These two females followed me around the pool, belittling me , verbally and phyisically assulting me – (along the lines of “what right to you have being here?”, “you are pathetic”, pushing, punching, etc, etc, etc) – pretty much what they had done my entire primary school life. I ignored them, despte the fact I was within my rights being in a public location, no one stopped them. I was ashamed of myself and felt like a weak and pathetic person.
Now, to hear from other females about “how hard they have it” and “men are privilidged”, it is pretty insulting and hard to take…
I don’t hate women at all. It is not what you are rather what you do that defines you.
It is quite arrogant of anyone to ignore the fact that someone can be a perpetrator regardless to their gender and to state that it is men that are the ones to blame.
I am 100% for equality, sadly 3rd wave feminism does NOT represent equality. It is a mouth peice for revolting sexists who have a victim complex.
To hear that I am priviledged….I spent my late teens sleeping on a park bench, i have been denined jobs because they wanted a woman…priviledged….FUCK OFF! FUCK RIGHT OFF.
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I originally studied German at university and before doing so I spent 6 months living in Germany, which improved my language greatly. This meant that I was at a considerable advantage in the conversation class over those who had not lived in the country, but I was always careful not to jump in too quickly after the previous person had finished talking. However, this didn’t stop a fellow student taking me aside to tell me that certain female students felt intimidated by me. The irony is that we had an older female student in the class who had spent 8 years or so living in Munich and whose German was therefore better than anyone else’s. To the best of my knowledge, no-one ever complained about her being intimidating.
Interesting. So was the fellow student who took you aside one who herself “felt intimidated,” or was it another student speaking “in their behalf”?
If a student is “intimidated” by another student’s expertise, then that should be an incentive to ascend to their level, not an occasion to engage in a pity party. This reminds me of the “everyone’s a winner” mentality, which in practice amounts to punishing excellence and indulging those who put in less effort.
As we know, some students do dominate the discussion. But when other students are given the opportunity to speak, an invitation, and even a nudge, and yet refuse to do so, those who take the initiative will naturally be featured more prominently in the discussion.
It was another student speaking on their behalf, but IIRC she was speaking on behalf of someone she knew well, so the two of them had doubtless spoken.
Solution: declare yourself gender fluid. When you are in her classroom, whip out some lip balm, “perform” gender, and presto, you are a woman and get to speak!
Yeah, that would be interesting if the professor realized you were actually a man and stopped you while you were in the middle of speaking.
Seriously, these people…becoming more pathetic and inexcusable each year.
“Seriously, these people…becoming more pathetic and inexcusable each year.”
Unfortunately, yes. And there are much more feminist bullshits in 2014 than the past 3 years.
This phenomenon is called “accelerating change” – perceived increase in the rate of technological (and sometimes social and cultural progress) throughout history, which may suggest faster and more profound change in the future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change
These crazy feminists are not isolated individuals; they are systematically orgainzed. Now, feminism has become a part of mainstream American culture. If we do nothing, it will get worse and worse.
Feminism is the cancer in education system.
Cancer is a very apt term. It originates in particular isolated areas – Women’s Studies departments, certain administrative departments – and then metastasizes to other departments. And the “chemotherapy” of exposing their misandry to the world and applying pressure doesn’t just affect them, because we have to start questioning why their peers acquiesce to / fail to speak out against them as well.
More like a virus. Viruses, like radical feminists, can not create anything on their own so they must invade a healthy host and use it to grow in number. Then, on to the next host.
Great column, Jonathan.
That’s exactly what I meant.
And we are the T lymphocytes.
I’ll tell you what’s “interesting”: the profound lack of engagement by the male public with these issues, these phenomena. A few days ago I responded critically to an extremely insulting (to men) joke posted on facebook by a friend of a friend of a friend. Instantly a chorus of women attacked me, none of whom I had ever heard of. One of the last comments was, “Allan, you must have been brainwashed by the Men’s Movement.” Had I not long since ceased replying I might have answered, “What ‘Men’s Movement’?” Unfair exaggeration? Look at the number of responses to threads/comments on this site.
Very good points. While we have all been lied to by feminists who insist that men are so privileged that they cannot suffer, many men have a problem
Also, I’d say that western society in general is just stuck in a mindset that their time away from work is to be devoted solely to entertainment. That’s not to say that activism can’t be fun (I had fun writing this article), but the reality is that if our society put as much effort into solving problems as it did keeping up with Kim Kardashian, football, and so forth, we would not have half the problems we have today.
Also, a lot of men are scared to do anything that might come remotely close to standing up to women. They’ll stand up to other men all day long, but if a woman threatens their well-being they’ll just roll over. Because in addition to being told all their lives that they can’t suffer because they are privileged, they’ve also been told that it’s unmanly to defend themselves from women.
So true. When it comes to the entertainment thing I am reminded of Rome of the later Empire period. In an excellent book called ‘Coming Apart’ by Charles Murray he shows how 19th Century America was unique in the West, if not in the world, in its collective “personality” or character. This was a key reason for its greatness. Just like with the Roman Empire, however, those qualities have faded and with them, others.
What sort of character was that, Allan?
Pat, an adequate answer to this question would require either a lengthy discussion or for you to read the book because it is complex as well as controversial. Suffice it to say a very good and intelligent friend of mine disputes it, but then, he was born and raised in Ireland. However, some inkling can be gleaned from this quotation found in the beginning of Chapter 6. “No government could be established on the same principle as that of United States with a different code of morals.” “The American Constitution is remarkable for its simplicity; but it can only suffice a people habitually correct in its actions…change the domestic habits of the Americans, their (Christian) devotion and their high respect for morality and it will not be necessary to change a single letter of their Constitution to vary the whole form of their government” Francis Grund (German ) 1825.
The book goes on in this chapter to identify the following, discussing each one: industriousness, honesty, marriage and religiosity.
When anti-Semitism began spreading in Germany in ’32 or earlier there was plenty of time and opportunity for Jews to leave and many did. However, most stayed. Of course, no one wants to leave their home unless absolutely necessary.But the other huge reason was that they did not WANT to believe their senses. This has been the case countless times in science and medicine too; the evidence is staring you in the face but you won’t accept it. This is the way it is with men. Ultimately they want to believe in their powerfulness and they want to be able to love women. That’s right, even perhaps those who hurl abusive language at women, deep down. After all, are they not talking like that out of hurt? Nothing hurts like a betrayl of trust.
Here is a radical idea. So radical that feminists will hate it and will call it oppressive and patriarchal. The idea is E – Q – U – A – L – I – T – Y
Feminists HATE equality and will not tolerate it for a second.
That’s because feminism has a major problem with hypocrisy. If they actually looked at their movement objectively they would see it. Christina Hoff Sommers is in a way trying to bring these issues to light. I brought up a point to a white male feminist (that stated that radical feminists have been pushed away from mainstream feminism) that if True Feminists would work with MRA’s that maybe we could move forward to actual gender equality. He responded that MRA’s are just white male trolls that essentially didn’t see their privilege. They are so intertwined with radical feminism that they don’t even recognize it anymore. I stated that “if you attempt to marginalize a persons viewpoint by attaching labels to dismiss them, you have become the bigot.”
It is not true.In the Florida legislature we have a child joint custody bill and durational alimony bill.Guess what groups are lobbying against the bill hat gives fathers equal shared custody ?? Florida NOW and Florida League For Women Voters. What phony hypocrites
That’s not just happening in Florida. When I mention “True Feminists” I mean egalitarians duped into Feminist ideals. I would even accept Equity Feminists. Most modern Feminists are radicalized. This article on the Wall Street Journal titled: “A Better World Run By Women” is a prime example of the type of pseudoscience they ascribe. It is almost in the spirit of the 20th century study of the differences between the races. I find it interesting that we, in this day and age, allow these hate movements to teach in institutions of higher learning. Here is a link to said article, and thank you for your time. http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-better-world-run-by-women-1425657910
The feminazis are at it again.
Firstly, let me start of by stating that I am making this comment anonymously due to the fact I do not want to be ridiculed.
When I was in my twenties, I went to a public swimming pool. There I was confronted by 2 females that i had not seen since Primary school (year 6). These two females followed me around the pool, belittling me , verbally and phyisically assulting me – (along the lines of “what right to you have being here?”, “you are pathetic”, pushing, punching, etc, etc, etc) – pretty much what they had done my entire primary school life. I ignored them, despte the fact I was within my rights being in a public location, no one stopped them. I was ashamed of myself and felt like a weak and pathetic person.
Now, to hear from other females about “how hard they have it” and “men are privilidged”, it is pretty insulting and hard to take…
I don’t hate women at all. It is not what you are rather what you do that defines you.
It is quite arrogant of anyone to ignore the fact that someone can be a perpetrator regardless to their gender and to state that it is men that are the ones to blame.
I am 100% for equality, sadly 3rd wave feminism does NOT represent equality. It is a mouth peice for revolting sexists who have a victim complex.
To hear that I am priviledged….I spent my late teens sleeping on a park bench, i have been denined jobs because they wanted a woman…priviledged….FUCK OFF! FUCK RIGHT OFF.