Update 2/3/2015, 12:00 PM: We’ve acquired Superintendent Bill Boyd’s email at [email protected]. Principal Roxanne Greer’s email is [email protected]. Let them know what you think! Also, since the review system at Great Schools is not allowing our reviews, go leave a review on their Google+ page! Also, here is the previously-hidden link to the school’s “Bully Reporting Form.” Report Principal Roxanne Greer for bullying Aiden Steward!
UPDATE 2/3/2015, 9:00 AM: it has come to my attention that GreatSchools.com is deleting our reviews (you can still upvote others’ comments, however), and the bully report form has been disabled by the school district since so many people were reporting Roxanne Greer. These things may change, but it is the current situation as of 2/3/2015, 9:00 AM central US time.
2/2/2015: Call to action: give Kermit Elementary School a negative one-star rating at Great Schools.com. Kermit Elementary has a “bully report form.” Use that form to report principal Roxanne Greer as the bully of Aiden Steward. Also, call Kermit School District at (432) 586-1000, or the elementary school directly at (432) 586-1020, and demand that everyone involved in the suspension of Aiden Steward be fired. [/dropshadowbox]
Is there something in the water that teachers and administrators at public schools drink that transforms them into anti-intellectual sociopaths? Is it some kind of requirement that, upon receiving your teaching certificate, you are required to turn in your common sense and human decency at the door?
Welcome to Kermit Elementary. I’m embarrassed to say that it’s in my home state of Texas. From NY Daily News:
Kermit Elementary School officials called it a threat when the 9-year-old boy, Aiden Steward, in a playful act of make-believe, told a classmate he could make him disappear with a ring forged in fictional Middle Earth’s Mount Doom.
The Stewards had just watched “The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies” days earlier, inspiring Aiden’s imagination and leading him to proclaim that he had in his possession the one ring to rule them all. Aiden claimed Thursday he could put a ring on his friend’s head and make him invisible like Bilbo Baggins, who stole Gollum’s “precious” in J.R.R. Tolkien’s fantasy series “The Lord of the Rings.”
Just when you thought public school administrators could not get any dumber. As if the boy being suspended for having a pop tart in the shape of a gun wasn’t enough. As if the nine year-old boy being suspended for sexual harassment for commenting to another student that a teacher was “cute” wasn’t enough. As if a million other examples weren’t enough.
Sometimes I’m amazed that kids learn anything in school. So now this nine year-old boy’s education has to be interrupted and he has to feel like a criminal simply because of the crime of using his imagination. This has gone far beyond zero tolerance for anything that could be twisted and bent to be viewed as remotely threatening. It’s now become zero tolerance for having an imagination, period.
But this isn’t the first time he’s been suspended by the school. The article continues:
The family moved to the Kermit Independent School District only six months ago, but it’s been nothing but headaches for Aiden. He’s already been suspended three times this school year.
Two of the disciplinary actions this year were in-school suspensions for referring to a classmate as black and bringing his favorite book to school: “The Big Book of Knowledge.” ‘He loves that book. They were studying the solar system and he took it to school. He thought his teacher would be impressed,’ Steward said. But the teacher learned the popular children’s encyclopedia had a section on pregnancy, depicting a pregnant woman in an illustration.
Three suspensions that should have never happened in the first place. For a nine year-old he has quite a “criminal record” – none of it his fault, and all of it the fault of the school.
All this has got me thinking. Schools have made a lot of changes regarding security over the last twenty years. Where there once were open fields, there is now a perimeter of fences. Security cameras monitor the entrances of buildings. To get in, you’ll have to pass through a metal detector or two. And police officers – euphemistically dubbed “school resource officers” – patrol the hallways.
All of this was done in the name of protecting kids from some crazy adult getting in there to harm them. But maybe that’s not the case. Maybe it’s there to protect teachers and administrators from parents who, once they realize their tax dollars are funding people who act like sociopaths to their own children, will want to drive up there and beat the living shit out of them for being so stupid.
So here’s what you can do. Don’t beat the living shit out of them for being so stupid. But do go directly to Kermit Elementary’s profile at Great Schools.com. That’s a website used to rank schools. their Google+ page, where you can rate the school and leave a review. Give Kermit Elementary a solid one out of five stars. Make sure to leave a description for your complaint. Talk about the school’s lack of values, rampant indiscretion when it comes to punishing students, their lack of commitment to education, and so forth.
We’ve acquired Superintendent Bill Boyd’s email at [email protected]. Let him know what you think!
Also, Kermit Elementary has a “bully report form.” Use it to report principal Roxanne Greer [update 2/3/15, 1:15 PM: this is a new link!].
Lastly, call the school district at (432) 586-1000. That’s the general district line, and I have it on decent authority that (432) 586-1020 is the line for the elementary school. Ask for Roxanne herself if you call the elementary school. Ask for Superintendent Bill Boyd if you can get through to district administration. Or simply give the receptionist an earful if you can get a hold of no one else.
Tell them that they ought to be ashamed of themselves, that everyone responsible for this decision needs to be fired immediately, and that they should make an immediate apology to Aiden Steward and his family.
I remember, before the turn of the new millennium, that a lot of people thought that the future would bring incredible advances. So much for that. If our country’s progress were judged by looking at these people in our education system, we might as well be back in the stone age.
Roxanne Greer needs to be fired, and Aiden Steward deserves an apology.
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Update 2/3/2015, 12:00 PM: We’ve acquired Superintendent Bill Boyd’s email at [email protected]. Principal Roxanne Greer’s email is [email protected]. Let them know what you think! Also, since the review system at Great Schools is not allowing our reviews, go leave a review on their Google+ page! Also, here is the previously-hidden link to the school’s “Bully Reporting Form.” Report Principal Roxanne Greer for bullying Aiden Steward!
UPDATE 2/3/2015, 9:00 AM: it has come to my attention that GreatSchools.com is deleting our reviews (you can still upvote others’ comments, however), and the bully report form has been disabled by the school district since so many people were reporting Roxanne Greer. These things may change, but it is the current situation as of 2/3/2015, 9:00 AM central US time.
2/2/2015: Call to action: give Kermit Elementary School a negative one-star rating at Great Schools.com. Kermit Elementary has a “bully report form.” Use that form to report principal Roxanne Greer as the bully of Aiden Steward. Also, call Kermit School District at (432) 586-1000, or the elementary school directly at (432) 586-1020, and demand that everyone involved in the suspension of Aiden Steward be fired. [/dropshadowbox]
Is there something in the water that teachers and administrators at public schools drink that transforms them into anti-intellectual sociopaths? Is it some kind of requirement that, upon receiving your teaching certificate, you are required to turn in your common sense and human decency at the door?
Welcome to Kermit Elementary. I’m embarrassed to say that it’s in my home state of Texas. From NY Daily News:
Kermit Elementary School officials called it a threat when the 9-year-old boy, Aiden Steward, in a playful act of make-believe, told a classmate he could make him disappear with a ring forged in fictional Middle Earth’s Mount Doom.
The Stewards had just watched “The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies” days earlier, inspiring Aiden’s imagination and leading him to proclaim that he had in his possession the one ring to rule them all. Aiden claimed Thursday he could put a ring on his friend’s head and make him invisible like Bilbo Baggins, who stole Gollum’s “precious” in J.R.R. Tolkien’s fantasy series “The Lord of the Rings.”
Just when you thought public school administrators could not get any dumber. As if the boy being suspended for having a pop tart in the shape of a gun wasn’t enough. As if the nine year-old boy being suspended for sexual harassment for commenting to another student that a teacher was “cute” wasn’t enough. As if a million other examples weren’t enough.
Sometimes I’m amazed that kids learn anything in school. So now this nine year-old boy’s education has to be interrupted and he has to feel like a criminal simply because of the crime of using his imagination. This has gone far beyond zero tolerance for anything that could be twisted and bent to be viewed as remotely threatening. It’s now become zero tolerance for having an imagination, period.
But this isn’t the first time he’s been suspended by the school. The article continues:
The family moved to the Kermit Independent School District only six months ago, but it’s been nothing but headaches for Aiden. He’s already been suspended three times this school year.
Two of the disciplinary actions this year were in-school suspensions for referring to a classmate as black and bringing his favorite book to school: “The Big Book of Knowledge.” ‘He loves that book. They were studying the solar system and he took it to school. He thought his teacher would be impressed,’ Steward said. But the teacher learned the popular children’s encyclopedia had a section on pregnancy, depicting a pregnant woman in an illustration.
Three suspensions that should have never happened in the first place. For a nine year-old he has quite a “criminal record” – none of it his fault, and all of it the fault of the school.
All this has got me thinking. Schools have made a lot of changes regarding security over the last twenty years. Where there once were open fields, there is now a perimeter of fences. Security cameras monitor the entrances of buildings. To get in, you’ll have to pass through a metal detector or two. And police officers – euphemistically dubbed “school resource officers” – patrol the hallways.
All of this was done in the name of protecting kids from some crazy adult getting in there to harm them. But maybe that’s not the case. Maybe it’s there to protect teachers and administrators from parents who, once they realize their tax dollars are funding people who act like sociopaths to their own children, will want to drive up there and beat the living shit out of them for being so stupid.
So here’s what you can do. Don’t beat the living shit out of them for being so stupid. But do go directly to Kermit Elementary’s profile at Great Schools.com. That’s a website used to rank schools. their Google+ page, where you can rate the school and leave a review. Give Kermit Elementary a solid one out of five stars. Make sure to leave a description for your complaint. Talk about the school’s lack of values, rampant indiscretion when it comes to punishing students, their lack of commitment to education, and so forth.
We’ve acquired Superintendent Bill Boyd’s email at [email protected]. Let him know what you think!
Also, Kermit Elementary has a “bully report form.” Use it to report principal Roxanne Greer [update 2/3/15, 1:15 PM: this is a new link!].
Lastly, call the school district at (432) 586-1000. That’s the general district line, and I have it on decent authority that (432) 586-1020 is the line for the elementary school. Ask for Roxanne herself if you call the elementary school. Ask for Superintendent Bill Boyd if you can get through to district administration. Or simply give the receptionist an earful if you can get a hold of no one else.
Tell them that they ought to be ashamed of themselves, that everyone responsible for this decision needs to be fired immediately, and that they should make an immediate apology to Aiden Steward and his family.
I remember, before the turn of the new millennium, that a lot of people thought that the future would bring incredible advances. So much for that. If our country’s progress were judged by looking at these people in our education system, we might as well be back in the stone age.
Roxanne Greer needs to be fired, and Aiden Steward deserves an apology.
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This is why we passed The Pop Tart Law in Florida last year.Feminist elementary school teachers were suspending and punishing boys for engaging in normal boy behavior. ( Fred Here on my GF computer)
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Interestingly, the school already has 4 reviews from 2013 and 3 of them are 1 star, with parents saying things like “This school has not met State academic standards for more than 3 years,” and “I deeply regret sending my kid to this school.”
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Heh
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Hmm…
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“The review that you posted for Kermit Elementary School was recently flagged by the community. Upon evaluation by our moderators, we found that it violated our guidelines.”
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Ok, I was skeptical before. But if they’re censoring your reviews, and if none of our reviews since this morning have showed up yet, something’s up.
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Um. Can we get some people to dress up as Middle Earth characters and walk around outside the school? Not on school property mind you, just around so that parents and teachers can see them out the window every once and a while.
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All I have to do to put this plan into action is find twenty or more Lord of the Rings fans willing to take off work or ditch class for the day to dress up as wizards and hobbits and walk around a school.
I’m down.
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This is pathetic. If a girl is suspended for playing an imaginary game, say Elsa frozing a bad guy, there would be outrages. This boy is relatively lucky because someone exposed the stupidity of his administrators and people provided emotional support for him. How about other kids who are punished by the education system just for being themselves? Especially boys who are punished for being boys? We don’t know how many of them are there.
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The link to the bully report form is dead, at least on my computer. Don’t know if it has been deliberatewly disabled, but this seems suspicious.
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Suspicious indeed. I’ve heard several reports of this. Thanks, Malcolm.
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Another idea. Everyone should start sending the principal letters from Middle Earth characters
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Bill Boyd’s email – [email protected]
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Thanks. Looks like it checks out. I’ve mentioned it at the top of this post.
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This is a form on kermit elementary schools website to report a bully. I suggest we report roxanne. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uCkE8H44AdD7NJp_iMt7G_XaPz5V4pd79wFyOKsMVGg/viewform
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Change of plans. Go to their Google+ page and leave a review, instead of on the GreatSchools site:
https://plus.google.com/106083386262185732974/about?gl=us&hl=enYou can email Superintendent Bill Boyd here: [email protected]
Nail these guys!
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Looks like the “Bully Report” still works, they just hid the link. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uCkE8H44AdD7NJp_iMt7G_XaPz5V4pd79wFyOKsMVGg/viewform
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The Daily Dot has decided to use the fiasco at Kermit Elementary to take a jab at A Voice for Male Students. Because standing up for a nine year-old boy being suspended for ludicrous things is misogyny. The more you learn!
Link: http://www.dailydot.com/geek/kermit-elementary-hobbit-ring-expulsion/?fb=dd
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most of the comments on that article are calling there BS
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First thing that jumped out at me: the Texas school “allegedly” suspends the kid for this reason. But, when a young man is accused of something much more serious (e.g. – rape) that “alleged” seems to disappear from most news outlets…
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Someone made this.
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That is awesome.
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A good reason why school principals should be men.
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There is nothing wrong with a female principal i had one when i was young but it does take only 1 to spoil the bunch i guess but not all female principals are scum bags like this one she just isn’t human… i get it now she is an orc and the ring scares her
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I agree. There are male principals who are absolute idiots in this regard as well.
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exactly
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I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that was snark
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no i meant what i said
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Don’t worry – soon the internet will be with us: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2015/02/04
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Nice one!
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Why all the anti-female sentiment? “Feminist elementary school teachers,” “A good reason why school principals should be men,” “feminsts (sic) would lose their mind.” I am a feminist and a mother to an 8 year old boy. I also find this mind-numbingly ridiculous. I don’t blame the ridiculousness on the principal’s sex. It’s just ridiculous. And just so you know, my kid is all boy-he loves legos, dinosaurs, sharks and plays all kinds of sports including football, baseball and basketball. No need to put people in imaginary boxes. You can be pro-male without being anti-female. We’re all human beings and should be on the same team supporting each other.
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“Feminism” is not the same as “women.” One is ideology, the other is biology. I don’t know whether Roxanne is a Feminist. And I don’t think the suspension it’s because the principal is female.
Koala was the only one talking about women specifically, so you should direct your question to him specifically.
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There seems to be a mis-guided notion that feminism is equal to man-hating and it’s not. There may be some women who identify as feminists who may hate men, but it’s not cause and effect.
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I would say it’s synonymous to caring about women more than men. Individual Feminists may not be like that, but Feminism as a movement very much is. Here’s my reasoning:
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I disagree completely. Feminism is the view that females are no less worthy because of their sex. You can lift someone up without putting someone else down. Pointing out inequality is not equal to putting someone down.
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Did you even read why I disagreed with your definition of Feminism before you responded by reading the material in the link? You’re basically reciting a dogma to me right now, rather than having a discussion with me.
I agree with the ideals you’re talking about, but I disagree that Feminism is generally about that.
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I did read it. My point is that I disagree with the view that feminism is anti-male. I never said that the challenges that boys and men face aren’t real. I am in fact reading a book now about that because I care about my son and I want to make sure I don’t miss any signs that I may not be familiar with because I’m not a man. Once again, we’re all on the same team. Not to go about touting platitudes, but how about building bridges and not walls.
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Well, you disagree with my position, but can’t articulate why you disagree with my supporting arguments. That’s problematic.
You may be the an example of the best that there is in Feminism, but that’s still just you, not Feminism as a movement. There are people who supported white nationalist movements who thought that the movement was just about taking pride in heritage, religion, and national defense (which white nationalist movements cloaked their true intentions under, and deceived many gullible people). And perhaps that was their beliefs, but that wasn’t the beliefs of the white nationalist groups that they were a part of.
I’ll build bridges with anyone who believes in equality, but if Feminism as a movement is not about equality – and I believe that such is the case – there is no reason to build a bridge. It’s like building bridges with white nationalism.
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I’m not trying to start an argument. I just wanted to present the idea that feminism does not equal man-hating (not that complicated, really). Why stop at white supremacy, why not go for Nazis, the group everyone loves to hate? I will continue to be the best mom to my son (even though I am a feminist) and do everything I can to make sure he grows up healthy, well adjusted and a contributing member of society who cares for his fellow earth-dwellers regardless of the labels that others feel the need to put on them. Don’t feel you have to respond to this.
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The only way you could view society as male-dominated is if you simply ignore or don’t care about all the men at the bottom of society, who outnumber the men at the top a thousand to one.
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She has a strong opinion based on how she feels. She has not thoroughly researched feminism and its criticism. If she had, and is truly unbiased, she would not be saying the things she is.
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That’s really more of an issue with the oligarchy that runs this country rather than a men’s (or women’s) rights issue.
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No it is not!
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Feminism, by definition and default is anti male. The thing that gets me is how few feminists have even read the Declaration of Sentiments. It is a hate document that pushes for female supremacy. Here’s why all of what I said here is true: 2+2= 4 for men but = 5 for women… All other things equal with no adjustment on behalf of males for not having a womb. It is not arguable that females will be “more equal” if all other things are equal. Not rocket science. And don’t think for a minute that early and late feminists haven’t thought of this. They did and have. We are constantly reminded of it too. Get educated about feminism before you blindly support it: the dictionary definition is not reflecting actual feminism. NOPE.
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How on earth did you arrive at the idea that “feminsts (sic) would lose their mind” is “anti-female sentiment”?
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I would think that anyone (feminist or not) would find either incident ridiculous and I think the “lose their mind” is a tad overstated, don’t you think? I’m pretty laid back, myself. I might find something ridiculous and marvel at the lack of thought that some people exhibit, but I don’t lose my mind over it. I do go a little crazy when I can’t find something.
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I would say you are an egalitarian. Feminism is too broad an ideology today that has been taken over by radicals making it strictly anti-male. You may disagree and still claim yourself a feminist but not THAT kind of feminist, but for good or bad that’s how others will view and treat you. You can blame the radfems.
There are some women who still refer to themselves as feminists who, like yourself, hold the torch for both sides, but what I find distinguishes them from most others is their strong public willingness to fight against the radfems and SJWS, while actively preaching the ills today against men/boys.
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I am an egalitarian. I also will proudly wear the mantle of feminism as long as there are women and girls anywhere in the world being oppressed in any way by the male dominated society they live in. Like I said before, I’m sure there are women who identify as feminists who hate men, but there are extremes at the fringes in every group (as I’m sure there are in the men’s rights movement) and I’m not going to be afraid to affiliate myself with feminism because someone suggests some might mistake me for a man-hater. People who know me know the truth.
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Please go get educated. You are blindly supporting a hateful ideology. Many people do this. GO GET EDUCATED. Actually read criticism about feminism. It will blow your mind about what you DON’T know. Feelings and well-wishing does not superimpose the actual facts.
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Is the National Organization for Women a fringe group? They advocated against equal parental rights for fathers and against initiatives to make domestic violence laws gender-neutral and help male victims of domestic violence.
There are extremists in every group. The problem is that Feminism’s extremists lead the movement.
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Actually, all the way back to its inception, feminism has been antimale. It was successful not because it was right but because it played on people’s general gullibility and overreaction to society’s natural inclination to help women. Reading the Declaration of Sentiments is all that is needed to prove this… If one reads it without trying to not see this point.
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I never said anything hateful. But you know what is? Kidnapping girls because they dared to get an education. Shooting a girl in the head because she dared to get an education. Setting women on fire because they’re now a widow at 18 because they were married off to an old man at 12 and are now a burden on society. Stoning women to death because they were with a man outside of their faith. The abduction of girls (and boys) and forcing them into sex slavery. And the concept of the damsel in distress is a male construct. (Don’t you worry your pretty little head. The big strong man will take care of that. ) All people should be able to take care of themselves, earn a living wage and be free to do so. Paint me as the enemy all you want.
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“Kidnapping girls because they dared to get an education. Shooting a girl in the head because she dared to get an education.”
Which never happens in any western country, and is greatly overexaggerated in how often it happens in middle-eastern countries.
The problem is that you’re presenting all that in isolation, and ignoring all the bad parts of Feminism or pretending that it’s not a core part of the movement. Stay blind all you want, but not everyone else will.
The KKK wanted whites to have access to education. That doesn’t mean they are egalitarians.
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Made a video about this. Check it out on my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNhbe9zq2Zk
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Small wonder China plans to ban western text books, they either saw what’s in common core or looked at this piece and realized just how stupid it makes us.
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Great to see this call for action. I’m in the UK but I have given Ms Greer my opinion on her action.
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There are so many unanswered questions to this story.
What happened to the Ring? Did Roxanne Greer take the ring from Aiden Steward? Will she throw it into Mount Doom or keep it for herself?
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If a little girl had done the same thing as this boy she would be heralded as empowering females. The subjective bias borders on the obscene.
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Here’s what I did – I sent them my Ring of Power: http://russlinton.com/2015/02/02/texas-school-rightly-fears-corruption-of-the-one-ring/
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Nice. And nice article.
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They may be censoring reviews on Great Schools, but here are the Google reviews. The couple of 5-star reviews look distinctly tongue in cheek.
https://plus.google.com/106083386262185732974/about?gl=uk&hl=en
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This is why we passed The Pop Tart Law in Florida last year.Feminist elementary school teachers were suspending and punishing boys for engaging in normal boy behavior. ( Fred Here on my GF computer)
Interestingly, the school already has 4 reviews from 2013 and 3 of them are 1 star, with parents saying things like “This school has not met State academic standards for more than 3 years,” and “I deeply regret sending my kid to this school.”
Heh
Hmm…
“The review that you posted for Kermit Elementary School was recently flagged by the community. Upon evaluation by our moderators, we found that it violated our guidelines.”
Ok, I was skeptical before. But if they’re censoring your reviews, and if none of our reviews since this morning have showed up yet, something’s up.
Um. Can we get some people to dress up as Middle Earth characters and walk around outside the school? Not on school property mind you, just around so that parents and teachers can see them out the window every once and a while.
All I have to do to put this plan into action is find twenty or more Lord of the Rings fans willing to take off work or ditch class for the day to dress up as wizards and hobbits and walk around a school.
I’m down.
This is pathetic. If a girl is suspended for playing an imaginary game, say Elsa frozing a bad guy, there would be outrages. This boy is relatively lucky because someone exposed the stupidity of his administrators and people provided emotional support for him. How about other kids who are punished by the education system just for being themselves? Especially boys who are punished for being boys? We don’t know how many of them are there.
The link to the bully report form is dead, at least on my computer. Don’t know if it has been deliberatewly disabled, but this seems suspicious.
Suspicious indeed. I’ve heard several reports of this. Thanks, Malcolm.
Another idea. Everyone should start sending the principal letters from Middle Earth characters
Bill Boyd’s email – [email protected]
Thanks. Looks like it checks out. I’ve mentioned it at the top of this post.
This is a form on kermit elementary schools website to report a bully. I suggest we report roxanne. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uCkE8H44AdD7NJp_iMt7G_XaPz5V4pd79wFyOKsMVGg/viewform
Change of plans. Go to their Google+ page and leave a review, instead of on the GreatSchools site:
https://plus.google.com/106083386262185732974/about?gl=us&hl=en
You can email Superintendent Bill Boyd here: [email protected]
Nail these guys!
Looks like the “Bully Report” still works, they just hid the link. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uCkE8H44AdD7NJp_iMt7G_XaPz5V4pd79wFyOKsMVGg/viewform
[email protected]
The Daily Dot has decided to use the fiasco at Kermit Elementary to take a jab at A Voice for Male Students. Because standing up for a nine year-old boy being suspended for ludicrous things is misogyny. The more you learn!
Link: http://www.dailydot.com/geek/kermit-elementary-hobbit-ring-expulsion/?fb=dd
most of the comments on that article are calling there BS
First thing that jumped out at me: the Texas school “allegedly” suspends the kid for this reason. But, when a young man is accused of something much more serious (e.g. – rape) that “alleged” seems to disappear from most news outlets…
Someone made this.
That is awesome.
A good reason why school principals should be men.
There is nothing wrong with a female principal i had one when i was young but it does take only 1 to spoil the bunch i guess but not all female principals are scum bags like this one she just isn’t human… i get it now she is an orc and the ring scares her
I agree. There are male principals who are absolute idiots in this regard as well.
exactly
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that was snark
no i meant what i said
Don’t worry – soon the internet will be with us: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2015/02/04
Nice one!
Why all the anti-female sentiment? “Feminist elementary school teachers,” “A good reason why school principals should be men,” “feminsts (sic) would lose their mind.” I am a feminist and a mother to an 8 year old boy. I also find this mind-numbingly ridiculous. I don’t blame the ridiculousness on the principal’s sex. It’s just ridiculous. And just so you know, my kid is all boy-he loves legos, dinosaurs, sharks and plays all kinds of sports including football, baseball and basketball. No need to put people in imaginary boxes. You can be pro-male without being anti-female. We’re all human beings and should be on the same team supporting each other.
“Feminism” is not the same as “women.” One is ideology, the other is biology. I don’t know whether Roxanne is a Feminist. And I don’t think the suspension it’s because the principal is female.
Koala was the only one talking about women specifically, so you should direct your question to him specifically.
There seems to be a mis-guided notion that feminism is equal to man-hating and it’s not. There may be some women who identify as feminists who may hate men, but it’s not cause and effect.
I would say it’s synonymous to caring about women more than men. Individual Feminists may not be like that, but Feminism as a movement very much is. Here’s my reasoning:
http://boysmeneducation.com/know-the-issues/mhrm/
I disagree completely. Feminism is the view that females are no less worthy because of their sex. You can lift someone up without putting someone else down. Pointing out inequality is not equal to putting someone down.
Did you even read why I disagreed with your definition of Feminism before you responded by reading the material in the link? You’re basically reciting a dogma to me right now, rather than having a discussion with me.
I agree with the ideals you’re talking about, but I disagree that Feminism is generally about that.
I did read it. My point is that I disagree with the view that feminism is anti-male. I never said that the challenges that boys and men face aren’t real. I am in fact reading a book now about that because I care about my son and I want to make sure I don’t miss any signs that I may not be familiar with because I’m not a man. Once again, we’re all on the same team. Not to go about touting platitudes, but how about building bridges and not walls.
Well, you disagree with my position, but can’t articulate why you disagree with my supporting arguments. That’s problematic.
You may be the an example of the best that there is in Feminism, but that’s still just you, not Feminism as a movement. There are people who supported white nationalist movements who thought that the movement was just about taking pride in heritage, religion, and national defense (which white nationalist movements cloaked their true intentions under, and deceived many gullible people). And perhaps that was their beliefs, but that wasn’t the beliefs of the white nationalist groups that they were a part of.
I’ll build bridges with anyone who believes in equality, but if Feminism as a movement is not about equality – and I believe that such is the case – there is no reason to build a bridge. It’s like building bridges with white nationalism.
I’m not trying to start an argument. I just wanted to present the idea that feminism does not equal man-hating (not that complicated, really). Why stop at white supremacy, why not go for Nazis, the group everyone loves to hate? I will continue to be the best mom to my son (even though I am a feminist) and do everything I can to make sure he grows up healthy, well adjusted and a contributing member of society who cares for his fellow earth-dwellers regardless of the labels that others feel the need to put on them. Don’t feel you have to respond to this.
The only way you could view society as male-dominated is if you simply ignore or don’t care about all the men at the bottom of society, who outnumber the men at the top a thousand to one.
She has a strong opinion based on how she feels. She has not thoroughly researched feminism and its criticism. If she had, and is truly unbiased, she would not be saying the things she is.
That’s really more of an issue with the oligarchy that runs this country rather than a men’s (or women’s) rights issue.
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No it is not!
Feminism, by definition and default is anti male. The thing that gets me is how few feminists have even read the Declaration of Sentiments. It is a hate document that pushes for female supremacy. Here’s why all of what I said here is true: 2+2= 4 for men but = 5 for women… All other things equal with no adjustment on behalf of males for not having a womb. It is not arguable that females will be “more equal” if all other things are equal. Not rocket science. And don’t think for a minute that early and late feminists haven’t thought of this. They did and have. We are constantly reminded of it too. Get educated about feminism before you blindly support it: the dictionary definition is not reflecting actual feminism. NOPE.
How on earth did you arrive at the idea that “feminsts (sic) would lose their mind” is “anti-female sentiment”?
I would think that anyone (feminist or not) would find either incident ridiculous and I think the “lose their mind” is a tad overstated, don’t you think? I’m pretty laid back, myself. I might find something ridiculous and marvel at the lack of thought that some people exhibit, but I don’t lose my mind over it. I do go a little crazy when I can’t find something.
I would say you are an egalitarian. Feminism is too broad an ideology today that has been taken over by radicals making it strictly anti-male. You may disagree and still claim yourself a feminist but not THAT kind of feminist, but for good or bad that’s how others will view and treat you. You can blame the radfems.
There are some women who still refer to themselves as feminists who, like yourself, hold the torch for both sides, but what I find distinguishes them from most others is their strong public willingness to fight against the radfems and SJWS, while actively preaching the ills today against men/boys.
I am an egalitarian. I also will proudly wear the mantle of feminism as long as there are women and girls anywhere in the world being oppressed in any way by the male dominated society they live in. Like I said before, I’m sure there are women who identify as feminists who hate men, but there are extremes at the fringes in every group (as I’m sure there are in the men’s rights movement) and I’m not going to be afraid to affiliate myself with feminism because someone suggests some might mistake me for a man-hater. People who know me know the truth.
Please go get educated. You are blindly supporting a hateful ideology. Many people do this. GO GET EDUCATED. Actually read criticism about feminism. It will blow your mind about what you DON’T know. Feelings and well-wishing does not superimpose the actual facts.
Is the National Organization for Women a fringe group? They advocated against equal parental rights for fathers and against initiatives to make domestic violence laws gender-neutral and help male victims of domestic violence.
There are extremists in every group. The problem is that Feminism’s extremists lead the movement.
Actually, all the way back to its inception, feminism has been antimale. It was successful not because it was right but because it played on people’s general gullibility and overreaction to society’s natural inclination to help women. Reading the Declaration of Sentiments is all that is needed to prove this… If one reads it without trying to not see this point.
I never said anything hateful. But you know what is? Kidnapping girls because they dared to get an education. Shooting a girl in the head because she dared to get an education. Setting women on fire because they’re now a widow at 18 because they were married off to an old man at 12 and are now a burden on society. Stoning women to death because they were with a man outside of their faith. The abduction of girls (and boys) and forcing them into sex slavery. And the concept of the damsel in distress is a male construct. (Don’t you worry your pretty little head. The big strong man will take care of that. ) All people should be able to take care of themselves, earn a living wage and be free to do so. Paint me as the enemy all you want.
“Kidnapping girls because they dared to get an education. Shooting a girl in the head because she dared to get an education.”
Which never happens in any western country, and is greatly overexaggerated in how often it happens in middle-eastern countries.
The problem is that you’re presenting all that in isolation, and ignoring all the bad parts of Feminism or pretending that it’s not a core part of the movement. Stay blind all you want, but not everyone else will.
The KKK wanted whites to have access to education. That doesn’t mean they are egalitarians.
Made a video about this. Check it out on my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNhbe9zq2Zk
Small wonder China plans to ban western text books, they either saw what’s in common core or looked at this piece and realized just how stupid it makes us.
Great to see this call for action. I’m in the UK but I have given Ms Greer my opinion on her action.
I hope that she is pleased to know that she has ‘admirers’ world-wide.
Oh, my…Miss Piggy has made it into the educational system and is bullying young boys instead of Kermit now…
(Pun intended.)
There are so many unanswered questions to this story.
What happened to the Ring? Did Roxanne Greer take the ring from Aiden Steward? Will she throw it into Mount Doom or keep it for herself?
I really don’t want to drive to Middle Earth Texas to find the ring .
If a little girl had done the same thing as this boy she would be heralded as empowering females. The subjective bias borders on the obscene.
Here’s what I did – I sent them my Ring of Power: http://russlinton.com/2015/02/02/texas-school-rightly-fears-corruption-of-the-one-ring/
Nice. And nice article.
They may be censoring reviews on Great Schools, but here are the Google reviews. The couple of 5-star reviews look distinctly tongue in cheek.
https://plus.google.com/106083386262185732974/about?gl=uk&hl=en